Condemnation of "Hippostania"
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Darth GW7
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Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Hippostania has recently been under attack by Jeniferia. Hippostania has violated several commonly agreed upon guidelines. The reasons of the sanction to Hippostania are listed below.
These are generally unacceptable for a nation, let alone a nation in Sermo.
We need to call for:
If Hippostania does not agree or does not abide by these regulations, military action will be pursued.
- Usage of Nuclear Weapons as a "First Strike"
- Usage of Nuclear Weapons, spreading nuclear fallout over Sermo
- Usage of Nuclear Weapons without thinking of potential environmental damage.
- Usage of Nuclear Weapons against civilian targets
- Usage of Nuclear Weapons on a neutral nation
- Attempt to annex a neutral nation
- Attempt to annex territory of nations uninvolved in the war
- Attempt to annex land of several allied nations
- Continuing warfare after Jeniferia surrendered
These are generally unacceptable for a nation, let alone a nation in Sermo.
We need to call for:
- The relinquishment of all authority of all previously annexed areas
- Immediate halt on all plans for annexation
- Immediate nuclear disarmament
- Compensation for the destruction of a neutral nation
- Reduce of the size of military
- Any aggression by the Hippostani military will include several punishments
- The reformation of the Hippostani military into a defensive force
If Hippostania does not agree or does not abide by these regulations, military action will be pursued.
Supreme Lord Blanchard- Posts : 42
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Hippostania used nuclear weapons without even thinking, considering alternatives or even seeking the advice of the other nations of Sermo.
It continually pursues the imperialist advancement of its nation by seeking to invade, or, it claims, "Annex" other nations' land and take it as its own.
It is an overall aggressive, oppressive nation, and it must be stopped.
Frenzland whole-heartedly agrees with this proposition.
It continually pursues the imperialist advancement of its nation by seeking to invade, or, it claims, "Annex" other nations' land and take it as its own.
It is an overall aggressive, oppressive nation, and it must be stopped.
Frenzland whole-heartedly agrees with this proposition.
Darth GW7- Posts : 204
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
The Commonwealth of Telekarta approves of this Condemnation and agrees with all listed offenses.
Telekarta- Posts : 24
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
OOC: I think we discussed the nuclear-thingy in the Steam chat yesterday? It was my mistake, I had no idea what to do, it was 11pm and I was about to go to bed. You don't get your best ideas while brushing your teeth!
Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Hippo wrote:OOC: I think we discussed the nuclear-thingy in the Steam chat yesterday? It was my mistake, I had no idea what to do, it was 11pm and I was about to go to bed. You don't get your best ideas while brushing your teeth!
//Haha don't tell me you expect to get off that easily?
Hippostania must be held accountable for it's actions. The Forum members of Sekkisi fully support this condemnation.
Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
// That.. Excuse.. Really?
Telekarta stands by it's decision; you cannot fire off nukes without consequences.
Telekarta stands by it's decision; you cannot fire off nukes without consequences.
Telekarta- Posts : 24
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
OOC: I do expect to get away that easily. I didn't know that there are rules (such as if someone declares a war on you, you can just ignore it) concering warfare. I was tired and thought that it was pretty fair to use nukes to cause an EMP. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I don't think it's fair to punish me for that D:
Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Hippo wrote:OOC: I do expect to get away that easily. I didn't know that there are rules (such as if someone declares a war on you, you can just ignore it) concering warfare. I was tired and thought that it was pretty fair to use nukes to cause an EMP. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I don't think it's fair to punish me for that D:
//Hahaha no. Your stupidity should be punished. Hey lets use an idea we thought up when "brushing our teeth" and "tired" what could possibly go wrong. Oh no I don't want to deal with the consequences lets try to weasel our way out of it!!
Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
The point is that when the war started, there were no 'rules' regarding warfare. No one had made them. Half-way thru the war, Ocasus told me that there are rules. Stuff like, 'you can ignore a declaration of war' and 'posting death tolls of your enemy is forbidden'.Sekkisi wrote:Hippo wrote:OOC: I do expect to get away that easily. I didn't know that there are rules (such as if someone declares a war on you, you can just ignore it) concering warfare. I was tired and thought that it was pretty fair to use nukes to cause an EMP. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I don't think it's fair to punish me for that D:
//Hahaha no. Your stupidity should be punished. Hey lets use an idea we thought up when "brushing our teeth" and "tired" what could possibly go wrong. Oh no I don't want to deal with the consequences lets try to weasel our way out of it!!
Since I had no idea that I didn't even have to go to war until thousands of people had been killed, it was pretty late by then.
Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Considering that the overall war which lead to thiese events was a war of aggression launched solely upon the state of concern after a series of events involving continuing degrading and ultimately inhumane acts committed upon their citizens, the Triumvirate believes that while the actions taken by the concerned might not be worthy of praise, the circumstances underwhich they were undertaken should be brought into account. With that in mind, we have drawn up a variant of the punitive actions from the original proposal.
This version, while acknowledging the needs to prevent further annexation attempts, to ensure that repayments can be made to the affected nation of Cypronor and that the military of the nation concerned overstepped it's bounds in attempting annexation, does not rule out the capability of the military entirely. This goes a way to ensuring that unlike other such actions in history, political opinion within the affected will not see this condemnation as an attempt to reduce their stature amid the region, but instead the punishment as they deserve.
We should understand that even after what has happened, we are still an international community. While punitive measures should be put in place, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves and try to demonise one another the moment a foot is put out of line. Mistakes are made, are these actions are to correct those mistakes, then try to bring that country back into the fold, not spurn them entirely.
Supreme Lord Blanchard wrote:
- Immediate halt on all plans for annexation
- Compensation for the destruction of a neutral nation
- Reduce of the size of military
- Reduction of the nuclear arsenal
- Any aggression by the Hippostani military will include several punishments
This version, while acknowledging the needs to prevent further annexation attempts, to ensure that repayments can be made to the affected nation of Cypronor and that the military of the nation concerned overstepped it's bounds in attempting annexation, does not rule out the capability of the military entirely. This goes a way to ensuring that unlike other such actions in history, political opinion within the affected will not see this condemnation as an attempt to reduce their stature amid the region, but instead the punishment as they deserve.
We should understand that even after what has happened, we are still an international community. While punitive measures should be put in place, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves and try to demonise one another the moment a foot is put out of line. Mistakes are made, are these actions are to correct those mistakes, then try to bring that country back into the fold, not spurn them entirely.
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Avin Triumvirate- Posts : 70
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Avin Triumvirate wrote:
- Immediate halt on all plans for annexation
- Compensation for the destruction of a neutral nation
- Reduce of the size of military
- Reduction of the nuclear arsenal
- Any aggression by the Hippostani military will include several punishments
The newly elected Hippostanian Goverment is willing to accept these proposals. It is not easy for us, but we must comply with them to maintain peace in the region.
However, we agree that we don't annex Cyprocor or any part of Jeniferia. We will still keep the Autonomous Province of Wokinghamshire, though. As long as the Hipponian people are alive, Wokinghamshire is ours. Don't start a pointless war just to get that small area of land from us.
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Frenzland wishes for the following points to be re-considered into the proposition:
That is all.Supreme Lord Blanchard wrote:
- The relinquishment of all authority of all previously annexed areas
Darth GW7- Posts : 204
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
Darth GW7 wrote:Frenzland wishes for the following points to be re-considered into the proposition:That is all.Supreme Lord Blanchard wrote:
- The relinquishment of all authority of all previously annexed areas
If this is brought up for consideration, I wish to remind the security consulate that Frenzland originally opposed the claim from the country under discussion as to several areas of land within the areas of neighbouring nations. The claims were subsequently sorted and finished. Now in a form of spite, they wish to drag all that up again at a time when the country in question is recovering not only from Jeniferian airstrikes and chemical warfare of the most vile nature, but preventing the further spread of an ebola outbreak in what until mere days ago was their capital.
Punitive actions deserve to be taken, but there is a clear line between those and simple petty schemes being dragged into the consulate.
Avin Triumvirate- Posts : 70
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Re: Condemnation of "Hippostania"
I never vocally disproved of Hippostania's annexation, yet, is my opinion more valid simply because I didn't speak out before? Hippostania killed INNOCENT civilians, not just any civilians, SERMO CIVILIANS. After this, the fallout from the attack spread to several other countries, claiming land and lives, and ruining both.
I strongly believe Hippostania should be severely punished for this.
I strongly believe Hippostania should be severely punished for this.
Supreme Lord Blanchard- Posts : 42
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Location : Festung Von Blanchard. Greater Sermo
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