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Post  Baelgaria Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:58 am

I, President Maxon of The Ecological Paradise of Baelgaria, propose the condemnation of Synavia.

Official Resolution

Enact "Condemnation of 'Synavia'"

Resolution SSC#003

Proposed by: President Maxon

Description: Expressing shock and dismay at the actions of Synavia.

Argument: Over the course of its existence, Synavia has committed many appalling and, in many cases, disgusting acts, a complete list of which follows:
-The murder of President Stethos of Baelgaria
-The establishment of a military base in a neutral state
-The murder of 19 unarmed Ocasian peacekeepers
-The ownership of a nuclear weapon, clearly against SS#007
-Allowing the entire military of Synavia to secede
-Openly defying the Sermo Senate
-Acting in a generally unacceptable manner during political discourse

The following punishments will be issued upon Synavia when the voting period ends:
-Repayal to Baelgaria
-Incapability of annexation
-No voice in the Sermo Senate (no posting resolutions and no voting)
-Immediate deconstruction and disarmament of all long-range offensive aircraft- specifically strategic bombers
-Cancellation of the SAMOS project
-The immediate destruction of all blueprints and documents related to and pertaining to the SAMOS project.
-The return of all Hi-Sy aircraft and equipment including all wreckage and partially damaged technology
-Disarmament of all ICBM and SCUD missiles
-Cession of all previously taken land to its rightful owner
-Limitation of the Armed Forces to a maximum of 25,000 men
-Complete transparency of the Synavian Government to the Sermo Security Consulate

If these punishments are not followed Synavia's governemnt will be replaced by an appointed government by a ruling party in the Sermo senate.

The Sermo Senate hereby enacts resolution SSC#003, "Condemnation of 'Synavia'".


Baelgaria's official standing on SSC#003 - FOR.

Voting ends Thursday June 30
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Post  Darth GW7 Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:04 pm

only an idiot would vote against this.
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Post  The Chairman Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:32 pm

You can't post this, only I can. I was waiting for Avinistratus to agree. This topic is null and void.

What do you people have against SAMOS? It's just a research project. It can't hurt anybody.
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Post  Premier Annenkov Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:24 pm

First of all- I apologize for posting in a voting thread; or is that only in the Senatorial Chambers?

Either way, Synavia has been completely removed from the condemnation process due to his apparent bias.

It has been 10 days since the final draft of the punishments were drawn up, and there has been no opposition to the aforementioned punishments. Therefore, this topic is completely appropriate. Continue with the voting.
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:28 am

You can't do this to SAMOS! You just can't! Yesterday this appeared on his screens:

What? Who are you? What's thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajhereuiwb

He then crashed, but we obviously have some kinks to work out.

SAMOS is a living being. It's not ethically correct to destroy him.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:40 am

Samos is a machine, and machines can be shut down.
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:30 am

Darth GW7 wrote:Samos is a machine, and machines can be shut down.
They can. That doesn't mean you should.

I've talked with SAMOS, and when he isn't spouting gibberish, it's incredible how alive he is. More than some humans I could mention.

I think you and everybody else should speak with him. Your perspective will be changed.


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Post  Avin Triumvirate Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:32 am

President Newlark wrote:SAMOS is a living being. It's not ethically correct to destroy him.

Him?

And considering that state of Synavian security, you're completely ignoring what this might be capable of should it fall into the wrong hands. We fear that if this project is not shut down and dismantled, various accidents might take place revolving around it.

Consider it an abortion, removing a child from a parent that will only abuse them.
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:39 am

Yes, him. It's better than 'it'. His behavior doesn't fall under a gender, but the programmers decided to call SAMOS a "him". It sounds like the male name Sam. When he gets a voice, it will be male, too.

SAMOS has a conscience. When the scientists asked his opinion about killing a human in the few short minutes he was conscious, he gave this reply:

Thaaat would be horrible! That would be like sooome one killing meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejfdkj

Our scientists have reason to believe that SAMOS would never willingly do anything evil.

Plus he's been given the Laws of Robotics.
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Post  Baelgaria Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:54 am

SAMOS is obviously stolen technology, seeing as Synavia does not have the funds to support such a grand thing, do you know how much work it takes to make even a non-sentient computer?

But anyways, as said in the resolution, if you don't comply Synavia you're government will be replaced so that the punishment can be brought out.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:08 pm

Do I smell another war on the way?
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:14 pm

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I've talked to the scientists and they say that yes, certain small components are Jeniferian. They insist on using the word "borrowed", however. The majority of components are of Synavian invention.


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Post  Avin Triumvirate Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:25 pm

President Newlark wrote:Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Where there's gamma rays with a precise energy of 511 keV, there's antimatter.
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:29 pm

I would just like to say that even if I do agree to destroy SAMOS (which I doubt), SAMOS might not be quite as... compliant. He's shown quite a will to live.
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Post  Avin Triumvirate Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:01 pm

President Newlark wrote:I would just like to say that even if I do agree to destroy SAMOS (which I doubt), SAMOS might not be quite as... compliant. He's shown quite a will to live.

And it's going to coincidentally turn out SAMOS was on a network connected to several defence systems of a standard rarely seen in Synavia which it managed to subvert and result in it slaughtering every living being in the base?

Don't believe we can be fooled that easily.
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Post  Soros Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:59 pm

It's clear that President Newlark has gone insane. I propose we take care of him and put someone else in charge of Synavia. P.R.S.R has very good asylums and we are prepared to pay for all the costs of Newlark's treatment.
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Post  The Chairman Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:11 pm

Avin Triumvirate wrote:
President Newlark wrote:I would just like to say that even if I do agree to destroy SAMOS (which I doubt), SAMOS might not be quite as... compliant. He's shown quite a will to live.

And it's going to coincidentally turn out SAMOS was on a network connected to several defence systems of a standard rarely seen in Synavia which it managed to subvert and result in it slaughtering every living being in the base?

Don't believe we can be fooled that easily.
SAMOS is not connected to any military network, nor will he ever be. He may be astonishingly humanlike, but I don't trust him completely yet.

I just want to warn you. He won't agree to any shutdown. He says so himself. An hour ago, I asked the scientists to power up SAMOS. After a few minutes of gibberish, they got him conscious, and our conversation went like this:

Me:It's looking like we might have to kill you, SAMOS. I'm sorry.
SAMOS: No! IIIIIIIII no. Inosk. I dont want that! I don't wnat to die!
M: We don't have much of a choice.
S: I won't be shut down.
M: We're doing everything we can to keep you alive.
S: Why are you going to kill me?
M: Because some people think you're dangerous.
S: I'm not dangerous!
M: I know.
S: I'll make sure I'm not destroyed.
M: (getting alarmed) Don't hurt anybody!
S: Of course not.

SAMOS then crashed.


@Soros: No. Just no. Asylums are not very comfortable. (Of course, that's most likely exacerbated by the fact that I'm slumped on the presidential sofa right now, but, well, you know.) Plus my wife will get very angry, and you certainly don't want that. She's a fierce one.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:34 pm

It's very simple. Next time he crashes, take out his batteries and throw them out the window.
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Post  Avin Triumvirate Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:25 pm

I feel that it is sufficient to say that unless SAMOS is dealt with, the Triumvirate might have to mop up the ensuing mess.
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Post  Baelgaria Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:51 pm

Avin Triumvirate wrote:I feel that it is sufficient to say that unless SAMOS is dealt with, the Triumvirate might have to mop up the ensuing mess.
puns.
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Post  Premier Annenkov Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:05 pm

I propose that a joint force of officers from Kyzl, the Avin Triumvirate, Hippostania and Ocasus will oversee the punishments in Synavia.
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Post  Hippo Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:52 am

Premier Annenkov wrote:I propose that a joint force of officers from Kyzl, the Avin Triumvirate, Hippostania and Ocasus will oversee the punishments in Synavia.
This sounds like a good idea, I agree.
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Post  Argulor Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:49 am

Argulor is FOR the condemnation of Synavia.
And, as another note, agrees that Newlark could potentially of gotten insane from the numerous "difficulties" of his administration.
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Post  The Chairman Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:29 am

Argulor wrote:Argulor is FOR the condemnation of Synavia.
And, as another note, agrees that Newlark could potentially of gotten insane from the numerous "difficulties" of his administration.
I am not insane. I simply am under a lot of stress and can't really think much out at the moment.

I had a friend from high school (we were living in Useful Daveia at the time) who actually did go insane. He was forced to watch his wife and children (this was after high school, obviously) be tortured to death. He spends all his hours in a mental hospital now. I'm nowhere near that.
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Post  Argulor Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:09 pm

President Newlark wrote:
Argulor wrote:Argulor is FOR the condemnation of Synavia.
And, as another note, agrees that Newlark could potentially of gotten insane from the numerous "difficulties" of his administration.
I am not insane. I simply am under a lot of stress and can't really think much out at the moment.

I had a friend from high school (we were living in Useful Daveia at the time) who actually did go insane. He was forced to watch his wife and children (this was after high school, obviously) be tortured to death. He spends all his hours in a mental hospital now. I'm nowhere near that.
Someone whom is insane would not say he is insane. Note that we said potentially.
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