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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:01 am

BREAKING NEWS - Hipponian Airlines jet crashes into an apartment building in Waverley - over 500 people dead

Shortly before 15.20 UTC, Hipponian Airlines flight 170, a fully loaded 747-400 on its way to Aura, Ocasus with 416 people onboard crashed into the Billmere Projects. Two minutes before crash the Department of National Security recieved a phone call the crash. The man calling to DoNS told that ''Hipponians are a blight who must be destroyed. It is the destiny of Frenzland to rule the Hipponians with an iron fist! We will not tire, we will not falter, we will not fail! In a few minutes, we will show our power! May the fire rain down on the subhumans below, as the flight 747 will crash! Long live the Frenzlandian Front for Hippostanian Liberation!''

Eyewitnesses claim that shortly after the departure from Waverley International Airport, there was a large explosion near the right wing of the aircraft that separated the right wing from the rest of the plane. The plane then entered a steep dive, crashing into the Building 4 of Billmere Housing Project. All people onboard the plane were instantly killed, and at least 80 people that were in the building have also been killed.

Investigators have reported that they have found traces of explosives near the crash site. The Hippostanian Goverment responded by raising the terrorist threat level to orange and by demanding that the people responsible will be brought to justice. Minister of Defence told us that ''If the Frenzlandian goverment won't give us the people responsible for this act of terror, we will go there and get them ourselves!''

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A resident took this picture just as the plane hit the building

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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:44 am

Hilarious. But false.

Please remove your slanderous "News" immediately.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:11 am

Darth GW7 wrote:Hilarious. But false.

Please remove your slanderous "News" immediately.
Oh, it's false. Of course it has to be true because you say so!
Seriously. You better give us the terrorists or we have to take action.

Frenzlandian cabinet members knew about the crash?

Department of National Security has just recieved alarming information about the crash of flight 170. According to DoNS, ''Frenzlandian Front for Hippostanian Liberation'' was established by several leading Frenzlandian cabinet members a few months ago after the Hippostanian annexation of Wokinghamshire. According to the current information, at least the Frenzlandian ministers of Defence, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Justice and Foreign Affairs have had strong links to the FFHL. Hippostanian goverment demands that these ministers will be transported to Hippostania immidiately for further questioning, sincet is possible that the leading goverment members of Frenzland were behind this outrageous act of terror.

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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:35 am

"Why of COURSE I'd be totally happy to hand over my ENTIRE PARLIAMENT to you, Hippostania, my longest friend who has always loved and trusted me and wanted to be my best buddy. Who cares about my government's stability, your intelligence is obviously COMPLETELY trustworthy and my ministers are all nasty terrorists who want to blow up the whole of Hippostania!"

^The above paragraph is as true and reliable as everything that Hippo has said in these "news" articles.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:06 am

Darth GW7 wrote:"Why of COURSE I'd be totally happy to hand over my ENTIRE PARLIAMENT to you, Hippostania, my longest friend who has always loved and trusted me and wanted to be my best buddy. Who cares about my government's stability, your intelligence is obviously COMPLETELY trustworthy and my ministers are all nasty terrorists who want to blow up the whole of Hippostania!"

^The above paragraph is as true and reliable as everything that Hippo has said in these "news" articles.
We have a deal then? Good, I'll send my C-17's to pick up your so called ''ministers''!
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:14 am

Oops sorry I was lying, thought you were good enough of a liar to recognise a liar.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:30 am

Darth GW7 wrote:Oops sorry I was lying, thought you were good enough of a liar to recognise a liar.
What do you mean, terrorist? I've never lied to anyone!
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Post  Baelgaria Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:54 pm

We had a BNS reporter in the area who witnessed the crash. George Koffwel was researching a news story concerning a local Baelgarian Bakery in the area when he saw the plan come down. George lost his brother on the flight. His brother had called him minutes before saying that masked men had hijacked the plane.
Baelgarian believes that the terrorist attack DID happen, but it seems that the frenzland accusation is completely false and just an unprovoked attack at Frenzland's integrity.
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Post  Sekkisi Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:05 am

Sekkisi Foreign Intelligence confirms no Frenzland involvement in this terrorist activity. No further information will be revealed due to security risks.
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Post  Darth GW7 Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:43 am

International police forces are co-operating with this investigation, and as of yet, no evidence has been found to suggest that Frenzlandian ministers are responsible for this tragedy.

I apologise if I offended anybody by being sceptical of whether this had actually occured, but as you are aware relations with Hippostania are not great at the moment, so we had reason to believe the entire incident was fabricated simply to slander Frenzland.
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Post  The Chairman Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:58 am

I'm inclined to agree with Frenzland. There is no real reason why Frenzland officials would crash a plane on purpose in Hippostania. I suggest all nations stop pointing fingers at each other's governments and go find the terrorists who orchestrated and put into action this revolting tragedy. I had many friends both on the plane and in the building, many of whom have not been accounted for.
However, due to the simple matter of geographical location, Synavia is not inclined to get actively involved unless absolutely necessary. I trust Hippostania and Frenzland to find the root cause of the attack.
Hopefully this is not the beginning of some big underground society planning to destroy us all.
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Post  The Chairman Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:28 am

We believe to have found the orchestrator of the crime and his accomplices, however we have been unable to procure his name. No one seems to know and he isn't telling. He may not even have done anything at all. Investigation is continuing.
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Post  President Gan Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:42 am

Until there is independent verification the Machiniosan government cannot believe that this attack was carrioed out by Frenzlandians.
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Post  The Chairman Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:30 pm

Parliament has decided today to release a report of the man who may have orchestrated the attack, and here it is.
Synavian Parliament. 4/5/11. On 4/3/11, the SAA (Synavian Airspace Agency) took into arrest a man by the name of Fredor Anagazin at Myasterith Airport for suspected crime of orchestrating the well-known intentional crash of a Boeing 747 aircraft in a populated building in Hippostania. The following is a list of reasons why we suspect his role in the crime:
1. Fredor's flight (Air Ocasus 4582) left about an hour after the attack.
2. When his baggage was scanned, some strange packages appeared on the screen, and when SAA officials opened the suitcase, they found several cases of various explosives, mainly being a particular distillation of nitroglycerin. (Parliament does not feel the exact identity of it should be made public.)
3. Traces of the aforementioned distinctive explosive were found at the site of the aircraft crash and is believed to have been placed in both the building and the aircraft and detonated by shock triggers.
4. Though not seemingly much hard evidence, Fredor was in a state of heavy stress in the airport and was not willing to talk much.

We are shocked to report that Fredor had very strong connections to the Frenzlandian government and actually once served on it.
Therefore, Synavian Parliament suggests that the attack was, in fact, carried out by the government of Frenzland. We wonder, as all are, why exactly Frenzland would do this, if they did it at all. Synavia is shocked and utterly abhors this action.
There are no words to describe the horror of this. This is utterly barbarian.
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Post  Darth GW7 Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:39 am

Frenzland is shocked by this latest revelation. Really, there's not much else that can be said.

But we shall do so anyway.

Firstly, Frenzland denies any accusation that the Frenzland government is behind this attack. Firstly, there is no "Previous" government in Frenzland. This shall be explained later.

Secondly, Frenzland is disappointed that no attempt was made to contact our embassy before this data was published.

Finally, Frenzland is ambivalent about the suspect's name being published in this case. Truly, the evidence is against him; however until he is found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, there is no reason to risk prejudice and persecution by making public his personal details. In the case he is innocent, this could quite easily ruin his life.

Now, about Frenzland's previous government.
Frenzland was once known as the land of "Xenophebis". Our nation was once a dictatorship, run by a single person and his close friends. The people of Frenzland were oppressed, controlled, butchered by this dictator. Anyone who spoke out was silenced immediately. The secret police were everywhere, on every street, listening at every door. No one dared to talk for fear of being caught.
But then, there was a revelation. One day, the Frenzland internet service was hijacked from an unknown source. For that day, the whole day, every single page, every single webservice redirected its users to one page. This page was blank except for two lines: A date, and a place. The date the same day the next week. The place was the Xenophebis capital, the square outside the national palace.
The next week, a crowd gathered outside the national palace. There were no signs, no placards. There was only silence. But then people began shouting.
Frenzland does not wish to go into the details. Blood was spilled, shots fired. The streets smelt of death for weeks on end. But in the end, the regime was toppled.
The new Frenzland government are the ones who hacked the Xenophebis web service. They are the ones who set up that page. They are the ones who set up that revolution. They have remained in power since Frenzland was created from the ruins of Xenophebis.

We will not pretend to know who this "Fredor Anagazin" person may be. But if your intelligence states that he was a part of the 'Previous Frenzland Government', then your information is either incorrect or merely inaccurate.
Frenzland offers this theory:

The person you know as Fredor Anagazin is not working for the Frenzland government. He is working for the Xenophebis government. He was a member of the Xenophebis regime, and, bitterness taking control of him, is attempting to topple our government. All he had to do was speak our name, and suspicion shifted to us.
He was not working for Frenzland at all - he was working against it.

This is our take on the matter. That is all.
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Post  The Chairman Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:11 pm

I satisfy your questions and concerns one at a time.

I felt that this information should be made public to the whole of Sermo instead of only making it known to you at first. I couldn't risk you quieting it all up. I don't exactly trust you.

Fredor Anagazin is not the suspect's real name. His real name is only known to Synavian Parliament and to me, and none of us will ever give up that information. We had not planned to even reveal that we had been using a fake name. We simply used that name to aid in clarity. However, I will give the real name to you, Darth, if you agree to my proposal. More about this at the end.

I am interested in the idea of Fredor being part of the Xenophebis government, as is Parliament, but we believe that the possibility of Fredor being part of Frenzland government cannot be completely outruled. However, it is generally not believed that Frenzland was behind this. The Xenopebis story seems much more likely, though more likely than either is the possibility that no government, debunked or otherwise.
Thanks for the history lesson, in any case. Smile

Now for the proposal. I am not one to fill up an entire post with rationales. I think that Synavia court should no longer be in control of this case, and instead should be under control of Frenzland court. If you accept, Synavia will hand over complete control of Fredor's fate to Frenzland. However, we have some conditions.
1. You, nor anyone else of your government, shall reveal his real name. It is his own to reveal as he pleases.
2. Synavia government shall have at least some say in the case.

If you refuse, the case will go to the Sermo Senate.

Please consider.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:22 am

Frenzland is unsure about this.
If we accept full control of the investigation and of court proceedings, then it is likely that we will be accused of covering up the situation. Given the current political climate, this is unacceptable.
If we do not, then we will be, essentially, giving up one of our own citizens to foreign judgement. This will be a major strike against the civil rights our country holds dear so is equally unacceptable.

Perhaps a neutral state will be willing to act as a moderator in the process of the investigation? This way justice will be served by our own nation, as should be the case, but our actions will be backed up by a reliable source.

I wish that the nations of Sermo could trust our Nation, but I fear that it is not the case, and so actions must be taken to secure people's trust in our government.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:35 am

Hippostanian Goverment demands that Synavia brings Fredor Anagazin to Hippostania as soon as possible, where he can get his fair share of justice. He bombed a Hipponian plane in Hippostania, he must be judged in Hippostania too.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:41 am

Fredor Anagazin is a Frenzland citizen and that means he should be tried in Frenzland.
The location of the crimes is irrelevant; every man has a right to a fair trial "BY HIS PEERS". The "Peers" part is important.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:10 am

Darth GW7 wrote:Fredor Anagazin is a Frenzland citizen and that means he should be tried in Frenzland.
The location of the crimes is irrelevant; every man has a right to a fair trial "BY HIS PEERS". The "Peers" part is important.
And then you decide that he won't be punished because of lack of evidence or something. This trial CAN NOT be held in Frenzland. It is necessary that the trial is held in some 3rd party country to make sure that the judges, jury etc are absolutely neutral.
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Post  Supreme Lord Blanchard Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:45 am

And might I ask how Hippostania is a third party?
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:50 am

Supreme Lord Blanchard wrote:And might I ask how Hippostania is a third party?
Hippostania isn't a third party either. But the point is if we can't get Anagazin, neither should Frenzland.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:28 pm

If the trial takes place in Frenzland then a third party nation, probably Ocasus, will choose the Jury.
Hippostania may offer a prosecutor to act for the trial.
Frenzland will provide a defense attorney.
Evidence will be submitted by all teams who participated in the inquest. It will be approved by another Third-Party, again probably Ocasus. Only evidence that has been approved by this nation will be accepted into the court.

Are these acceptable terms?
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:36 pm

Darth GW7 wrote:If the trial takes place in Frenzland then a third party nation, probably Ocasus, will choose the Jury.
Hippostania may offer a prosecutor to act for the trial.
Frenzland will provide a defense attorney.
Evidence will be submitted by all teams who participated in the inquest. It will be approved by another Third-Party, again probably Ocasus. Only evidence that has been approved by this nation will be accepted into the court.

Are these acceptable terms?
Yes they are. We accept these terms.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:35 pm

I'm glad that our countries could come to an agreement on this subject. Hopefully we can turn this terrible situation around and improve our relations.
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