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Post  The Chairman Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:09 pm

Both Synavia and Hippostania have declared war on Baelgaria. Baelgaria has bombed the Synavian capital and Hipponian supply depots. Hippostania has bombed several sites in Baelgaria City. And this morning, Synavia did something unprecedented. In the gently smoking ruins of Jeniferia, Synavian Black Ops personnel went into a secret underground vault and uncovered a nuclear warhead. It is now being kept in an obviously secret location. I will not detonate it unless absolutely necessary. And maybe not even then. All forces are standing by. Only Baelgaria itself knows what they're up to.
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Post  Baelgaria Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:46 pm

Following the recent assassination of our Vice President by Hippostanian operatives, and the recent Avinistratus using their thought-to-be-decommissioned godship, Our borders are closed. Even to urgent business. Our late Vice President was taking actions against the advice of the Congress AND the Senate. No longer responding due to political turmoil.
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Post  Hippo Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:37 am

Following a heavy bombing on Baelgarian border installations during the night, Hippostanian Armed Forces have begun a full-scale assault on Baelgaria. Since Ocasus is now maintaining peacekeeping in Jeniferia, we managed to use as many units as possible for the assault.
Shortly after dawn, Hippostanian troops crossed the border into Baelgaria. They encountered heavy resistance, as Baelgarian Armed Forces desperately tried to prevent the invasion.

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Post  Grand Administrator Crude Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:57 am

So you're using your peacekeeping troops to wage war?

Request for change PLCL-FRN-002 has been issued in the administration, the personal perception of Grand Administrator Crude Oil will be changed to "Hilarious political nutjob".
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Post  Hippo Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:07 am

Grand Administrator Crude wrote:So you're using your peacekeeping troops to wage war?

Request for change PLCL-FRN-002 has been issued in the administration, the personal perception of Grand Administrator Crude Oil will be changed to "Hilarious political nutjob".
The peacekeepers we used in Jeniferia really weren't trained peacekeepers. They were just regular soldiers, they didn't have any peacekeeper training. We believed that they could still handle it, and they did.
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Post  Grand Administrator Crude Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:42 am

The request for change has not been retracted.
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Post  Supreme Lord Blanchard Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:59 pm

Hippo, I had troops stationed on the Baelgarian border. You just engaged them.
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
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Post  The Chairman Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:26 pm

Today at 3:17 a Hi-Sy helicopter intercepted an apparent transaction between Baelgaria and Greater Sermo on the southern Baelgarian borders of a nuclear weapon. As the helicopter left, carrying the bomb, Baelgarian forces launched a missile at the helicopter, successfully destroying the helicopter, but detonating the bomb.
The Baelgarian War Images%3Fq%3Dnuclear%2Bexplosion%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1221%26bih%3D762%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1 The Greater Sermo Mountains can be seen in the distance.

The radiation, at a deadly level, has spread over large parts of Baelgaria, Sidonath, and Mibraiha. I'll make a map once the full scoop's come in.

All I can say is it's not fully my fault. Find fault with Baelgaria, if you must.
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Post  Baelgaria Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:02 pm

President Adams wrote:Today at 3:17 a Hi-Sy helicopter intercepted an apparent transaction between Baelgaria and Greater Sermo on the southern Baelgarian borders of a nuclear weapon. As the helicopter left, carrying the bomb, Baelgarian forces launched a missile at the helicopter, successfully destroying the helicopter, but detonating the bomb.
The Baelgarian War Images%3Fq%3Dnuclear%2Bexplosion%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1221%26bih%3D762%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1 The Greater Sermo Mountains can be seen in the distance.

The radiation, at a deadly level, has spread over large parts of Baelgaria, Sidonath, and Mibraiha. I'll make a map once the full scoop's come in.

All I can say is it's not fully my fault. Find fault with Baelgaria, if you must.
//That's not how nukes work. Nuclear weapons need to be sent a detonation signal or something or other. Uranium is not nitroglycerin. Your post is null for being retarded.
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Post  Telekarta Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:39 am

You guys have no idea how to roleplay correctly. This is fucking freeform, you cannot go 'oh btw i blow up your helicopter as it leaves lol kaboom'.

It is up to the OTHER person to decide whether the helicopter explodes. You can launch all the rockets you like at it, but if the other person goes 'we do a barrel roll and everything misses', they all miss. But then the other person is an unrealistic faggot for roleplaying a helicopter doing a barrel roll.

tl;dr, you're all faggots who have no idea how to role play, and this 'war' proves it.
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Post  Premier Annenkov Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:21 pm

//Is the war over? there hasn't been any activity on it today, or am I just being impatient?
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Post  Baelgaria Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:31 pm

//Pretty much, it delved into RP hell just right there.
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Post  The Chairman Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:54 pm

Telekarta wrote:You guys have no idea how to roleplay correctly. This is fucking freeform, you cannot go 'oh btw i blow up your helicopter as it leaves lol kaboom'.

It is up to the OTHER person to decide whether the helicopter explodes. You can launch all the rockets you like at it, but if the other person goes 'we do a barrel roll and everything misses', they all miss. But then the other person is an unrealistic faggot for roleplaying a helicopter doing a barrel roll.

tl;dr, you're all faggots who have no idea how to role play, and this 'war' proves it.
Um, I don't think you get what happened. I reported the Baelgarian missile. I also reported the helicopter crashing and blowing up. Think about that.

Oh, and by the way, I've received info that the bomb didn't detonate. I was simply relying off the information the helicopter radioed to me in its final moments. It reported massive amounts of radiation, but I recognize now that this information was incorrrect and attribute it to a system malfunction. I apologize for any annoyance this has caused and urge Hippostania to actually do something.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:31 am

President Adams wrote:urge Hippostania to actually do something.
Our troops are invading Baelgaria as we speak. They've been doing that for days.
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Post  Darth GW7 Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:24 am

I thought that taking part in this war would result in major ass-spanking?
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:46 am

Darth GW7 wrote:I thought that taking part in this war would result in major ass-spanking?
Yup. But Baelgaria bombed my supply depots and threatened me with an EMP. I had to defend myself, and that's not ''intervening''
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Post  Baelgaria Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:13 pm

Supreme Lord Blanchard wrote:Hippo, I had troops stationed on the Baelgarian border. You just engaged them.
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
*cough*
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Post  Supreme Lord Blanchard Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:09 pm

Greater Sermoan armies have been rallied, and now push north for a counterattack. Spearheaded by veteran brigades, the 142nd Panzerschützen, 3rd Fallschirmjäger, and various PMCs.
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As inspiration to the war, all Greater Sermoan channels played one of their military parades.
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Post  Hippo Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:46 pm

While the Hippostanian troops have been temporarily pushed back to the old Jeniferian border in southern Baelgaria, the troops up north are still advanving.
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Post  The Chairman Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:14 am

I advise Baelgaria to not forget that
a. I still exist,
b. I haven't retracted my declaration of war on you, and
c. Due to increased government spending, Synavia now has a very large Air Force and, combined with Hi-Sy aircraft, make a force to be reckoned with.

Expect no more Mr.-Nice-Guy pretty darn soon.
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Post  Avin Triumvirate Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:53 am

Considering the current statements of intent made by both the Baelgarian and Synavian governments, the Triumvirate believes it wise to remind them that any military flight through the NTRI that wasn’t cleared through official channels before hand will be assumed hostile and shot down.

If nations wish to convey their forces through the NTRI for mere ferrying or cargo purposes, then they may file an official request. A time will be provided and their aircraft will be escorted through a pre-assigned channel. However, aircraft transiting the NTRI will not be allowed to carry weapons internal or external, with a visual check before each craft enters the zone.

These measures were put in place to further the security of Sermo.
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Post  The Chairman Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:03 am

Honestly, it's not hard to just fly around the NTRI.
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Post  The Chairman Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:26 am

President Adams wrote:I advise Baelgaria to not forget that
a. I still exist,
b. I haven't retracted my declaration of war on you, and
c. Due to increased government spending, Synavia now has a very large Air Force and, combined with Hi-Sy aircraft, make a force to be reckoned with.

Expect no more Mr.-Nice-Guy pretty darn soon.
Soon as in now.
As we speak, a Synavian B-2 Spirit bomber (one of two in the new fleet) is releasing several Mark 82 bombs over control centers in Baelgaria believed to be the recieving of signals from Baelgarian satellites. We could not risk the continued operation of these, so we bombed them. The successful destruction of the control centers has yet to be seen. The B-2 has successfully returned to home base.
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The B-2 Spirit cruising over the Baelgarian Countryside.
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Post  Avin Triumvirate Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:27 pm

// Sorry to have to be 'that guy', but looking at the unit cost per B-2 Spirit and the size of your defence budget combined with just how long it took you to acquire them, it seems abit unlikely that you could develop such a force within mere days.

Considering you had no defence budget before, having some air-capability after Hippostania sent you F-14s and other various things would be understandable, considering he likely would've also sent pilots, weapons officers, support teams etc for an unskilled operator. This would be akin to what was done during the Korean War and Vietnam.

However, the idea that within mere days you could've formulated a 'very large air force' including ground facilities, support personnel, defensive networks and radar sites let alone the requirements in training pilots and weapons officers is rather far fetched.

Here's your military budget, taken from NStracker.

Defense: S$12,367,187,191.30

Assuming I'm reading that correctly you have 12.367 billion dollar-equivilents to spend.

This is for your entire armed forces, not just your air-force. However even assuming it was entirely for your air-force, it rather pales in comparison to the cost of modern air operations.

While I cannot claim to know the full structure of your air force, I do know that you have two B-2 Spirits in your inventory. The current unit cost per B-2 as far as I can find is 1.157 billion US dollars per airframe.

That means that nearly a sixth of your budget, in the form of 2.314 billion dollars is being expended solely upon the cost of buying, not supporting those aircraft. That leaves roughly 10 billion to divide between the rest of your armed forces.

For an example fighter however, you could roughly buy about 20 of the latest F-16 Block 50s for a billion dollars.

You still need to buy the climate controlled hangars for the Spirits, the spare parts, the ground support personnel need to be trained, the pilots themselves need to be trained...

The pilots, that's something that I see some of the most problems with here for your air-force. When the Luftwaffe was defeated, it wasn't because they weren't producing enough airframes, it was because they lacked the fuel to train pilots before they went into what combat operations they could mount.

Here the problem isn't fuel, but time. Would you honestly train enough pilots within a week to man an entire airforce when all you have is a few Hippostanian F-14s and crew to work from?

The USAF selected a Navy Prowler pilot for the B-2 after he'd flown for 2 years, here you'd be putting pilots with mere hours at best into your B-2s and expecting them to fly to Baelgaria, bomb their targets and back.

I could've understood you building this all up over time, but over a period of not even a month you've suddenly had this entire air force and thus implying all the required support structure appear from nowhere in a form you describe as 'very large'. Yet, your entire defence budget isn't even a tenth of that used by a truely large air-force.

Suddenly jumping into bed with stealth bombers is rather ridiculous, really.
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Post  Hippo Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:34 pm

//Synavia, usually air force planes don't have their country's flag painted on them like that. They usually use roundels like this, you really should use them too. I was too lazy to remove the jagged edges, sorry.
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